Tribulation saints

I've heard some Christians say to unsaved people,or even on a television ministry--"You can't wait until the Tribulation to get saved, then it will be too late."Uh...that's not really true. Once they TAKE the mark of the Antichrist, yes, too late. However, we have the 144,000 and the 2 witnesses, and what do we read?John says{writes}"And I saw a great crowd which no man could number, out of every tribe and tongue and nation,standing before the throne,. And I asked,"Who are these ,Lord?" And He said ,"These are they who came out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes in the blood of theLamb."So yeah, even after the Rapture, and the "original "Christians are gone, there are those who will get saved, and not a small number.Also, John describing the Tribulation in Revelation--"Among other indications,...so I would say,yes, there will be some saved during the Tribulation,and for those who say,it's past the day of salvation at that time, we can't speak for God and say at what time which one will be saved. I'm sure many who knew the thief on the cross would have said during his life, "Come on, him?"No way." Yet close to the time of his death, it happened,whether those who knew him heard about it from a distance and scoffed at it or not.WE can't "proclaim " who will and won't be saved,based on our own way of looking at it.That's up to God.

 

[Brother James]

Yes, Salvation is up to God/Jesus but we are to judge another who tries to teach us Steven Bobb! Especially those who try to teach that following Jesus when Jesus teaches us to count it all as joy is considered a masochist by you Steven! I really don't believe that you should try to teach anyone my friend! The thief on the cross with Jesus did not ever once try to teach anyone other than his example of his own Salvation which is written for us!

 

[Steven Bobb]

Yes, Salvation is up to God/Jesus but we are to judge another who tries to teach us Steven Bobb! Especially those who try to teach that following Jesus when Jesus teaches us to count it all as joy is considered a masochist by you Steven! I really don't believe that you should try to teach anyone my friend! The thief on the cross with Jesus did not ever once try to teach anyone other than his example of his own Salvation which is written for us!

It's not that I'm doing it with the intent of "teaching" or trying to have an "evil plan" to draw them away from their Biblical teaching. One knows themselves better then another knows them,it's more like, first, some people have a harder time than others dealing with things, and when I go through a a long series of things happening the opposite of my preferences,{and yes , I did read that in the Bible, the statement you keep repeating}but when {more with you than the others because I get get the impression you're always "scolding" me,} ,I come on and do like anyone else here and describe a situation,and when you give me a "scolding" {every time} I think, now I have the original problem, and this guy is "getting on me " on top of it, so my "defense" is, hey , when things go wrong I don't enjoy it, that's why I react that wayLike some become saved , and have struggle with something, my thing is ,I find it hard to feel in a celebratory mood.I also feel that you might be "minimizing" what I go through, and to me, it might be something that meant alot,and I might not even mention the whole thing, so by "minimizing" it, I feel it's disrespectful. Sometimes I post a thing I'm going through, and end with"after all, I'm not a masochist"Stating the reason I don't like the situation,meaning I don't like it because I'M not a masochist,not throwing it at someone else, nessasarily.With you, because you do it in a "scolding manner", I might get a little "rougher" with you.But teaching, or thinking I sit around trying to follow a Satanic plan to "retrain" Christians, I would say that's an overstatement. If you say, I have a problem overcoming some things, or let my emotions override my spirituality sometimes,ok. But no, I don't sit around under instructions from the devil to intentionally pull Christians away from their faith.If you accused me of maybe letting my anger cloud my judgement...but intentionally hatching satanic plans...God knows the heart.

 

[Brother James]

It's not that I'm doing it with the intent of "teaching" or trying to have an "evil plan" to draw them away from their Biblical teaching. One knows themselves better then another knows them,it's more like, first, some people have a harder time than others dealing with things, and when I go through a a long series of things happening the opposite of my preferences,{and yes , I did read that in the Bible, the statement you keep repeating}but when {more with you than the others because I get get the impression you're always "scolding" me,} ,I come on and do like anyone else here and describe a situation,and when you give me a "scolding" {every time} I think, now I have the original problem, and this guy is "getting on me " on top of it, so my "defense" is, hey , when things go wrong I don't enjoy it, that's why I react that wayLike some become saved , and have struggle with something, my thing is ,I find it hard to feel in a celebratory mood.I also feel that you might be "minimizing" what I go through, and to me, it might be something that meant alot,and I might not even mention the whole thing, so by "minimizing" it, I feel it's disrespectful. Sometimes I post a thing I'm going through, and end with"after all, I'm not a masochist"Stating the reason I don't like the situation,meaning I don't like it because I'M not a masochist,not throwing it at someone else, nessasarily.With you, because you do it in a "scolding manner", I might get a little "rougher" with you.But teaching, or thinking I sit around trying to follow a Satanic plan to "retrain" Christians, I would say that's an overstatement. If you say, I have a problem overcoming some things, or let my emotions override my spirituality sometimes,ok. But no, I don't sit around under instructions from the devil to intentionally pull Christians away from their faith.If you accused me of maybe letting my anger cloud my judgement...but intentionally hatching satanic plans...God knows the heart.

I don't just point things out to you alone Steven but if you are claiming something that you don't really understand I am going to point that out to you. I'm sorry if you think I'm scolding you especially you alone but you post things more often than most so I am going to correct you more often than someone who doesn't post that often. I usually start out correcting someone in private, if they persist then I do it openly. I really don't think that you truly even know what a masochist is my friend because it's original definition has to do with sex, not learning to count something as joy which really doesn't mean happy at all. Why don't you learn how to actually ask Jesus Himself to reveal things to you especially before you call His children names at all?

Do you not think or realize that Jesus Himself is going to bring you every little thing that you fear until you learn just exactly how to count everything in your life as joy?

 

[Steven Bobb]

I don't just point things out to you alone Steven but if you are claiming something that you don't really understand I am going to point that out to you. I'm sorry if you think I'm scolding you especially you alone but you post things more often than most so I am going to correct you more often than someone who doesn't post that often. I usually start out correcting someone in private, if they persist then I do it openly. I really don't think that you truly even know what a masochist is my friend because it's original definition has to do with sex, not learning to count something as joy which really doesn't mean happy at all. Why don't you learn how to actually ask Jesus Himself to reveal things to you especially before you call His children names at all?

Do you not think or realize that Jesus Himself is going to bring you every little thing that you fear until you learn just exactly how to count everything in your life as joy?

Yes I know the original meaning of masochist, but it's also used in general...with "wishing something into existence", maybe that's the case now, but I see it also as, first, the circumstance happens, THEN I complain...you see it as vice versa..I also posted a new blog, let's see what you might find to disagree with there.

 

[Brother James]

Yes I know the original meaning of masochist, but it's also used in general...with "wishing something into existence", maybe that's the case now, but I see it also as, first, the circumstance happens, THEN I complain...you see it as vice versa..I also posted a new blog, let's see what you might find to disagree with there.

I'm not disagreeing with anything Steven, I just don't believe that you should be teaching anyone until you actually repent from calling others names especially when they share something Jesus Instructed us to do.

 

[Danika]

Jesus never said that our life will be a bed of roses and that we shall sleep well at night. Trials and tribulations shall come. Pandemic of all kinds shall rise up against us and more chemical labs will be producing poisons to kill more people. This is satans work and the soon return of Jesus to earth. Be prepared. Be ready to see Jesus coming in the clouds to take us all home to heaven. Fill our cup o Lord. We need You today and will need You forever. Amen

 

[Gisell]

Jesus loves everyone of us and want us all in heaven.