I think Christians are overstepping their roles when they...

"The secret things belong to to God""Concerning that day and hour, noone knows, neither the angels in Heaven nor the Son, but only the Father."Sometimes revelation is given from God to His servants. But sometimes it's more of a case of a Christian speaking out of their own "viewpoints " and mindset and stating things according to how "they" see it, not actual revelation from God. Like, for years now, I've heard tv evangelists .sating , "Oh beloved, I don't see how we can have more than {states a very short amount of time.} Well that time comes and goes, in fact, many years have passed since each of them have said that, , but although they had said,"We're living in the last of the last days. Trust me when I say, before this year is out, we'll be home in Glory."that was like 20 years ago, some more, and if they "knew" why are we still here? I think that has a bad effect on us, because when the world sees that, it gives them more ammunition against us. Others have actually set dates of Jesus' coming, claiming they put some numbers together and came up with the time. Trying to figure out with mans wisdom Gods plans. "Concerning that day and hour NOONE KNOWS, neither the angels in Heaven nor the Son.BUT ONLY THE FATHER."I think Christians trying to "calculate"Gods plans by stringing figures together, or by their "feelings" on it, should take heed. It's not revelation, it's just mans attempts."The secret things belong to God."Agree?

 

[Steven Bobb]

Bang on! It is pointless. All of the people who have preceded us, shows me that the odds are greater that that we will die before the endtimes. It's better in the here and now to have your lamp burning brightly with the Spirit than worry about an endtime belief. At the risk of being a little controversial, the bible teaches us that we are all appointed to die once. I will meet Jesus then. Praise God!

I used to not rush it, because I had unsaved loved ones,But then,SO MANY negative experiences have happened to me that now I go "the other extreme" and encourage it to get here,In fact if I have a problematic situation coming up on x date, I actually start hoping that the Rapture would come before the problem, like an escape FROM the problem!! But as for the length of time it's taking, you're right, these overzealous Christians who keep saying it will likely be here in a jiffy, they "don't see how" it could take longer, and they said that from 20 years ago {or more}.But "One day is with the Lord as 1000 years, and 1000years as one day."It seems like forever because of our hatred of the Earthly problems we're dealing with.But in the end , it's Gods decision.P.S. But as for saying we will all die, in general,but also in the Bible is this,""Behold , we shall not all die, but we shall be changed, in a momemt, in the twinkling of an eye."Also,"The dead in Christ shall rise first , then we who are ALIVE and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air.""So I would differ about that there are exceptions to death--based on these verses-but agree that because it's taking so long,it does seem that more immediate things will come first.

 

[Brother in Christ (JC)]

I used to not rush it, because I had unsaved loved ones,But then,SO MANY negative experiences have happened to me that now I go "the other extreme" and encourage it to get here,In fact if I have a problematic situation coming up on x date, I actually start hoping that the Rapture would come before the problem, like an escape FROM the problem!! But as for the length of time it's taking, you're right, these overzealous Christians who keep saying it will likely be here in a jiffy, they "don't see how" it could take longer, and they said that from 20 years ago {or more}.But "One day is with the Lord as 1000 years, and 1000years as one day."It seems like forever because of our hatred of the Earthly problems we're dealing with.But in the end , it's Gods decision.P.S. But as for saying we will all die, in general,but also in the Bible is this,""Behold , we shall not all die, but we shall be changed, in a momemt, in the twinkling of an eye."Also,"The dead in Christ shall rise first , then we who are ALIVE and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air.""So I would differ about that there are exceptions to death--based on these verses-but agree that because it's taking so long,it does seem that more immediate things will come first.

I do understand your take on that verse
"The dead in Christ shall rise first, then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air.""
Very familiar with it. Decades upon decades of studying it. It's better to focus on Jesus then to argue over this dogma. Just keep your spiritual lamp burning. That's all that matters.