Dazzle
Disciple of Prayer
This isn't entirely a "request" per se, and I don't mean to promote anything, but Josh Wilson has a song called "Before the Morning", and the comments on YouTube say that the song is based on Romans 8:18. His song inspired me and I looked up the verse and I've come to love this verse, and the whole chapter. Verse 8 says "For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." Verse 1 - "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit." Verse 11 - "But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you." I could go on.
But I've been wondering... if the Spirit dwells in us and we're not in the flesh, why do even experienced Christians make such terrible decisions sometimes? Verse 26 and 27 say "Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God." So that would mean the Spirit should be working in us as Christians to make us better. Yet many of us backslide, we pray, we confess, then mess up again. Over and over and over again. We've been debating that very matter at class at church, but never finished, come to think of it... Paul says in Romans 7:14-25, in the chapter just before Romans 8: "We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
Paul was most definitely a Christian when he wrote this. And many Christians can relate to this. I know I do.
If God should be working through us as Christians, and we truly meant it when we said we were willing to give up our sinful lives for Him, what makes us do the opposite? Why do Christians surrender all and then... don't? I know there are many mental disorders that can cause people to see, think and do things they don't want to. But according to the Bible, anyone can be a Christian, so long as they believe. Which means even backsliders and even the worst sinners on the planet have a chance to get to heaven. I have a ton of questions. Does being a Christian still let us have "free will"? Is it still free will if you have a mental disorder? Why did Paul say there was sin living in him and his body subject to death when he should've been born again and renewed? And why do Christians, even the ones without disorders, still do things outside of the Spirit? I've been a Christian for years and still don't know. I've backslid and recommitted my life to Christ and still don't know. I want to evangelise like Paul did, but even Paul didn't seem to know. Woe is me. I'll just put Romans 8:37-39: "Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." We are conquerors of sin and still we are held captive by it. How and why?! But at least God will always love us, and Romans 8 is beautiful, let me say.
I'll just let the Spirit make intercession for my groanings for now. I don't know what else to do about it.
But I've been wondering... if the Spirit dwells in us and we're not in the flesh, why do even experienced Christians make such terrible decisions sometimes? Verse 26 and 27 say "Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God." So that would mean the Spirit should be working in us as Christians to make us better. Yet many of us backslide, we pray, we confess, then mess up again. Over and over and over again. We've been debating that very matter at class at church, but never finished, come to think of it... Paul says in Romans 7:14-25, in the chapter just before Romans 8: "We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
Paul was most definitely a Christian when he wrote this. And many Christians can relate to this. I know I do.
If God should be working through us as Christians, and we truly meant it when we said we were willing to give up our sinful lives for Him, what makes us do the opposite? Why do Christians surrender all and then... don't? I know there are many mental disorders that can cause people to see, think and do things they don't want to. But according to the Bible, anyone can be a Christian, so long as they believe. Which means even backsliders and even the worst sinners on the planet have a chance to get to heaven. I have a ton of questions. Does being a Christian still let us have "free will"? Is it still free will if you have a mental disorder? Why did Paul say there was sin living in him and his body subject to death when he should've been born again and renewed? And why do Christians, even the ones without disorders, still do things outside of the Spirit? I've been a Christian for years and still don't know. I've backslid and recommitted my life to Christ and still don't know. I want to evangelise like Paul did, but even Paul didn't seem to know. Woe is me. I'll just put Romans 8:37-39: "Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." We are conquerors of sin and still we are held captive by it. How and why?! But at least God will always love us, and Romans 8 is beautiful, let me say.
I'll just let the Spirit make intercession for my groanings for now. I don't know what else to do about it.