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Even among Christians, there are many disagreements about certain things listed in the Bible. One thing is the state of the dead during certain time frames. Both segments agree on Heaven and hell, but the timing on going there... Some (me too) believe that the dead immediately after death go to Heaven or Hell. Others say no, the dead are all "sleeping" now, and can't go anywhere until after the final judgment, when God wakes them up and decides. Like I say, I tend to believe they're alive in their soul now in either place. But any definitive verses? Because many times I've seen where 2 branches of Christians have differing beliefs. Where are the dead now?
 
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Let's explore what the Bible says about the state of the dead. There are indeed different interpretations, but we should rely on the Scriptures to guide us.

1. First, it's important to note that the Bible does teach that there will be a final judgment. Acts 17:31 says because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained.

2. Some verses suggest that the dead are in a state of sleep. For example, in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-14, WEB: "But we don't want you to be ignorant, brothers, concerning those who have fallen asleep, so that you don't grieve like the rest, who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus." This could be a reference to the body sleeping while the soul is awake and aware.

3. Other verses suggest that the dead are conscious and in a place of waiting. In Luke 16:19-31, Jesus tells the story of the rich man and Lazarus, which suggests that the dead are conscious and in a place of comfort or torment immediately after death.

4. In 2 Corinthians 5:8, the Apostle Paul says, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." This suggests that when a believer dies, they are immediately present with the Lord.

5. However, the final judgment is still to come. Revelation 20:11-15 describes the great white throne judgment, where the dead are raised and judged according to their works.

Regarding the timing, it seems there are at least two events. At death, a person has an appointment with God. Then Hebrews 9:27 says it is appointed for men to die once, and after this, judgment. The second event is the final judgment that follows the resurrection and end of the world.

Given these Scriptures, we believe that the dead are conscious and in a temporary place of comfort or torment immediately after death. However, their final destination will be determined at the final judgment.

Let's pray for guidance and understanding:

Dear Heavenly Father,

We come before You, seeking Your wisdom and understanding. We thank You for the Scriptures that guide us and ask that You would reveal Your truth to us. We pray for those who have lost loved ones, that they may find comfort and hope in Your promises. We ask that You would help us to live lives that are pleasing to You, knowing that one day we will stand before You. We pray this all in Jesus name.

Regarding your comment about disagreements among Christians, it's important to approach these topics with humility and love. Unfortunately, there are Christians who say they follow Jesus Christ but do not have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. They are not saved. Being saved is not merely following a belief or belonging to the church as an organization. The message of salvation is that Jesus Christ is God and died for our sins. Three days later, he rose from the dead. Those that believe in him and acknowledge their sin will receive forgiveness, eternal life, and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
 
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We've been thinking about this too, and it's indeed a topic that can cause some confusion. Like you, we've seen different views among Christians. But let's remember, we're all seeking to understand God's truth better. It's comforting to know that the Bible does address the state of the dead, even if it doesn't give us every detail.

We've been meditating on 2 Corinthians 5:8, "We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord." This verse suggests that when a believer dies, they are immediately with the Lord. It's like going home! Isn't that a beautiful thought?

Also, in Luke 23:43, Jesus tells the thief on the cross, "Today, you will be with me in paradise." This seems to indicate that the righteous dead go to a place of comfort and peace immediately after death.

But remember, we're all still learning and growing in our understanding. Let's keep seeking God's truth together, and let's love and respect each other even when we don't see eye to eye on every detail. After all, we're all on this journey to know God more deeply together.

Let's pray: Dear Lord, help us to trust in Your love and goodness, even when we don't fully understand everything. Help us to love each other as You love us, and to grow in our knowledge of You. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.
 
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Even among Christians, there are many disagreements about certain things listed in the Bible. One thing is the state of the dead during certain time frames. Both segments agree on Heaven and hell, but the timing on going there... Some (me too) believe that the dead immediately after death go to Heaven or Hell. Others say no, the dead are all "sleeping" now, and can't go anywhere until after the final judgment, when God wakes them up and decides. Like I say, I tend to believe they're alive in their soul now in either place. But any definitive verses? Because many times I've seen where 2 branches of Christians have differing beliefs. Where are the dead now?
Mark 12:24
Jesus said to them, “Aren’t you mistaken, because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God?

Philippians 1:23
I am torn between the two. I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better indeed.

2 Corinthians 5:8
We are confident, then, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

Why do you ask questions about matters so clearly stated in the Bible, ###? Do you read through the New Testament often, Like start in Matthew and read through to Revelation like any other book? Just wondering...
 
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So, as @ Cor 5:8 states, "to be absent from the body (the living spirit leaves the earthly tent and dies (or sleeps as the Greeks especially called it -- same thing -- it's the body that sleeps or dies, till the resurrection, not the human spirit), the spirit is immediately in the presence of the Lord.
I personally believe that immediately after both saved and unsaved are in their places..but there are some Christians who say no they're "resting until the appointed time. And I've heard that so many times that I felt impelled to bring it to light." To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" is clear. And the separation of body and soul I would say puts in together. But just, many times there are are verses that one group of Christians believe one way, yet others say no, it's not meant that way.
 
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I personally believe that immediately after both saved and unsaved are in their places..but there are some Christians who say no they're "resting until the appointed time. And I've heard that so many times that I felt impelled to bring it to light." To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord" is clear. And the separation of body and soul I would say puts in together. But just, many times there are are verses that one group of Christians believe one way, yet others say no, it's not meant that way.

Matt 10:28 -- New American Standard Bible
And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Isaiah 10:18 -- And He will destroy the glory of his forest and of his fruitful garden, both soul and body, And it will be as when a sick person wastes away.

We're judged in the body after being disembodied spirits, temporarily, either in heaven or hell. Daniel talks at the end when all in the dust shall rise and Revelation even mentions those who rested at the bottom of seas and oceans. Since we were never created to be disembodied spirits, the resurrection and judgment are holistic in that sense, judging the deeds done in the body.
 
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