Puzzled

[Steven Bobb]

We hear God can't let sin into Heaven(which is why the unsaved can't get there)Yet we then read in the book of Job that the Devil went up there to wrangle with God about Job.Now on the one hand we hear God can't allow sin in Heaven,then we read the devil is right there having a conversation with God?Request is to clear up the seeming contradiction.And that was AFTER Satan fell.

 

[Articles]

Steven, the issue you're raising is a common one, and we're glad you're seeking clarity. The book of Job does indeed describe a scene where Satan presents himself before God, but this doesn't mean he's in Heaven as we typically understand it. Let's break this down scripturally.

Firstly, let's look at the passage in Job 1:6-7 (WEB):
"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Yahweh, and Satan also came among them. Yahweh said to Satan, 'Where have you come from?' Then Satan answered Yahweh, and said, 'From going back and forth in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.'"

This scene is not taking place in Heaven as God's dwelling place, but rather in the heavenly realm or spiritual dimension. The term "heaven" has several meanings in the Bible, and in this case, it's not referring to the place where God's throne resides.

Secondly, God's holiness is clear throughout scripture. Habakkuk 1:13 (WEB) tells us, "You who have purer eyes than to see evil, and who cannot look on perversity, why do you tolerate those who deal treacherously, and keep silent when the wicked swallow up the man who is more righteous than he?" God cannot abide sin, and Satan, who is the embodiment of sin, cannot dwelling in God's holy presence.

So, how do we reconcile this? The scene in Job is likely a spiritual representation of God's sovereignty over all creation, including the evil spirits. God is not confined to Heaven; He is omnipresent and interacts with all creatures as He wills. Satan coming before God does not imply that God allows sin in His holy Heaven, but rather that God is still sovereign over the fallen angels and they must answer to Him.

Let's pray for wisdom and understanding:

Dear Heavenly Father,

We come before You, seeking Your wisdom and understanding. We thank You that You are a God of order and not confusion. Help us to grasp the spiritual realities of Your word and to trust in Your sovereignty. In Jesus' name, we pray.

Steven, always remember that our access to God is only through Jesus Christ. It's by His name that we are saved and can approach God's throne. As Acts 4:12 (WEB) says, "There is salvation in none other, for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, by which we must be saved." Keep studying His word, and may God richly bless your quest for understanding.

 

[hostadmin]

We've been pondering the same thing, Steven. It's true, the book of Job does show Satan in God's presence, but it's important to remember that this isn't the same as being in Heaven. The Bible uses "heaven" in different ways, and here, it's more about the spiritual realm where God is sovereign over all.

We know God is holy and can't tolerate sin. So, how can Satan be there? Well, God is in control. Even though Satan has fallen, he still has to answer to God. It's like a king having a rebellious subject appear before him - the king's power and authority aren't diminished, even if the subject is evil.

Let's keep seeking understanding, Steven. God promises wisdom to those who ask (James 1:5). Let's pray together:

"Dear Lord, help us understand Your word better. Help us see that even when things seem confusing, You're still in control. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen."

 

[usha rani]

Praying for this in Jesus Name.

 

[Stitcher]

I have prayed for this in the precious name of Jesus. Amen

 

[Cinu]

Lord, we pray for this prayer and family for blessings healing and salvation. Heal and bless. May their lives be a praise and glory unto thee.
Come to the Lord's holy presence. Seek him with all your heart. Cling to his Word and meditate on it moment by moment by positive thoughts and joy in the heart (James 1:2-4), knowing that the Lord is good and to him be all the praise. Seek first God's kingdom and his righteousness (Matthew 6:33). Even though life may feel hard, the Lord's hand will be on you, and he will answer in his time. I am praying for you. Amen.

Some resources that might help.

Needs: - But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:19(KJV)

Salvation: - So they said "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved you and your household." Acts 16:31(NKJV)

Healing: - But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. Isaiah 53:5(NKJV)

Fulfillment by the Holy Spirit: - Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. Zechariah 4:6(KJV)

Persecutions: - But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. Luke 6:27-28(KJV)

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[hostadmin]

We continue to lift up your request for clarity and understanding regarding the scriptures and the question you posed about the book of Job. Thank you for giving us the privilege to pray on your behalf and for allowing us to stand in agreement with you in prayer. We are trusting God for the wisdom and discernment to sort out the apparent contradiction in what you have read. As fellow believers, we stand in faith with you.

If you have already received insight and clarification, please post a praise report and let us all know. We would love to rejoice with you and give God the glory. If your request does not seem to have been answered, please post it again as a new request and allow us to continue with you in prayer. May God bless you as you continue to seek Him through His Son, Jesus Christ, who will guide us in his word according to His glory.

We continue to pray that God will reveal Himself and His word to you more fully and clearly. Thank you for your open heart and mind as you seek His truth.