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The Bible in spots says "The living know that they will die, but the dead are conscious of nothing".But in other parts, we read of those dying unsaved, and" there will be weeping and nashing of teeth Also, Lazarus and the rich man, and in Revelation, the martyrs, saying "How long oh Lord holy and true, until you avenge our blood on those who dwell on the Earth?"Now how can the dead be conscious of nothing and yet have these memory's and consciousness after death to state things?Both in the Bible, but contradictory .How so?Request is to solve the puzzle.
 
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Steven, the puzzle you're presenting is a common one, and it's important to consider the context and audience of the passages in question. Let's look at the relevant Scriptures and try to understand them together.

First, let's consider Ecclesiastes 9:5,10
"For the living know that they will die, but the dead don’t know anything, neither do they have any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might"

This passage is from the perspective of the living. It is a wisdom book written for everyday life. The wisdom books from the Bible might not be discussing the eternal state of the soul since the writers were not aware of the extent to which God went in order to save us. The dead don't know anything from our perspective, however, the scriptures say our soul is eternal. We should live our lives with this understanding.

The parable of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31 is a teaching of Jesus using illustrations familiar to the audience.
"There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen, rejoicing in splendor every day. A certain beggar, named Lazarus, was laid at his gate, full of sores, and desiring to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the rich man’s table. Yes, even the dogs came and licked his sores. It happened that the beggar died, and that he was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died, and was buried. In Hades, he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far off, and Lazarus at his bosom. He cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue! For I am in anguish in this flame.’

Jesus is using a parable to illustrate a spiritual truth. This parable illustrates that the unrighteous would be eternally separated from the righteous. The parable of the rich man and Lazarus is one of Jesus' six warnings about hell. This parable is intended to illustrate a spiritual reality and should not be used to justify the understanding of the state of the dead.

Now, let's consider the passage from Revelation 6:9-11
"When he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been killed for the Word of God, and for the testimony of the Lamb which they had. They cried with a loud voice, saying, 'How long, Master, the holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?'"

John, the writer of the book of Revelation, is seeing a vision of the souls of those who had been martyred for their faith. This is a symbolic vision, showing the reality of their plight and God's awareness of it. It is not necessarily a literal description of their conscious state.

The Bible teaches that the soul is eternal, but the understanding of the state of the dead is not comprehensively described from our perspective. We are to live our lives according to God's Word, and trust Him with the things we do not understand.

We pray that this understanding helps you, ###. Let's pray together.

Dear Heavenly Father,

We come before You in the name of Jesus, seeking Your wisdom and understanding. We thank You for Your Word, which is a lamp to our feet and a light to our path. We ask that You guide ### and help him to see and understand the truth about Jesus Christ. God we ask you help ### if he has not believed in Jesus Christ to trust him, that Jesus died on the cross for his sins, and that he rose again from the dead. We pray that You would continue to reveal Yourself to him and deepen his understanding of Your Word. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.
 
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We've been reflecting on your question, Steven, and it's clear that the Bible does indeed present different perspectives on the state of the dead. While Ecclesiastes tells us that the dead are unaware, other passages like the parable of Lazarus and the rich man, and Revelation's account of the martyrs' souls, suggest a level of consciousness after death. It's important to remember that the Bible was written over a long period by many authors, each with their own focus and audience.

Rather than trying to fit these passages into a single, harmonized view, perhaps we should approach them with humility, acknowledging that God's ways are not always fully comprehensible to us (Isaiah 55:8-9). We know that our eternal souls will be with God (2 Corinthians 5:8), but the details of the in-between state are not fully revealed.

Let's trust in God's goodness and wisdom, even when we don't fully understand. After all, He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, and He sees the big picture that we can't (Revelation 22:13).

Let's pray together, Steven. Heavenly Father, we come to You in Jesus' name, seeking understanding and trust in Your ways. Help us to accept the mystery of the state of the dead, knowing that You are in control and that You love us deeply. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.
 
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Lord, we pray for this prayer and family for blessings healing and salvation. Heal and bless. May their lives be a praise and glory unto thee.
Come to the Lord's holy presence. Seek him with all your heart. Cling to his Word and meditate on it moment by moment by positive thoughts and joy in the heart (James 1:2-4), knowing that the Lord is good and to him be all the praise. Seek first God's kingdom and his righteousness (Matthew 6:33). Even though life may feel hard, the Lord's hand will be on you, and he will answer in his time. I am praying for you. Amen.

Some resources that might help.

Needs: - But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:19(KJV)

Salvation: - So they said "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved you and your household." Acts 16:31(NKJV)

Healing: - But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. Isaiah 53:5(NKJV)

Fulfillment by the Holy Spirit: - Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. Zechariah 4:6(KJV)

Persecutions: - But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. Luke 6:27-28(KJV)

Help in Prayer

Dwelling and Thriving in God’s grace where everything happens for good (Romans 8:28)

Pray that the Lord may open the eyes of the nations affected by coronavirus (Specifically forces against God’s people)


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We continue to lift up your prayer request, seeking God's wisdom to understand His Word more deeply. We are honored that you have allowed us to join you in prayer, seeking clarity on the Scriptures you mentioned.

If God has provided you with insight and understanding regarding this apparent contradiction, we would be delighted to hear about it. Please share a praise report to encourage and enlighten us all. If you are still seeking clarity, do not hesitate to post your request again. We are committed to continuing with you in prayer, trusting that the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth.

May God bless you richly as you diligently seek Him through His son, Jesus Christ. We pray that the Lord will open your heart and mind to understand His Word more profoundly. In Jesus Name.
We look forward to hearing from you soon.
 
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