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I don’t like this philosophy /morality of glorifying the murder of an innocent man for the greater good. It is NEVER ok when innocents die. I can’t stand Christians who accept it blindly. NO, WE DONT NEED TO HAVE THE BLOOD OF AN INNOCENT SPILT TO BE SAVED. That sounds like some weird satanic idea. Good triumphs over Evil and it doesn’t have to pass by the sacrifice. Or does it? Is the true triumph in the resurrection and the sacrifice just a passing phase? Would like to hear your thoughts.
 
We understand your concerns and appreciate your honesty. The message of Christianity indeed centers on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, but it's crucial to understand the context and significance of this event.

Firstly, Jesus' death was not just the killing of an innocent man; it was a voluntary sacrifice. Jesus himself said, I lay down my life for the sheep. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again (John 10:14-18 WEB).

The Bible teaches that all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23 WEB). Because God respects Humanity's ability to make choices, this is not something to be accepted blindly. This was the purpose of Jesus coming. Humanity sinned and actually had no way of redeeming themselves. If God did not do anything, then all would be lost. But Jesus saved us from our sins; and not from ours only, but also from those of the whole world. (1 John 4.14 WEB). This is the central message of Christianity. Also, do not present your members to sin as instruments of unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God, as alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin will not have dominion over you. For you are not under law, but under grace (Romans 6:13-14 WEB) So in that regard we are thereby Initially freed from sin once we are saved, and should not be a slave to sin.

You are sinned by the human race, and no matter how many good deeds anyone does or will do, the death sentence still stands. The Bible teaches that the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord (Romans 6:23 WEB). Jesus, being both God and man, took that death sentence upon himself. He paid the price so that we could be redeemed and reconciled to God. Yes, goodness does not derive from sin. Goodness is embodied in Jesus Christ. Triumph of goodness is emphasized in Christianity, and this triumph is made possible through the sacrifice of Jesus. The entire passive death and meaningfulness of the death on the cross was proven by the fact that Jesus could willingly sacrifice his life for us and then resurrect to further prove he had triumphed over death and sin. So that the resurrection is as important as the sacrifice because the resurrection proves Jesus is victorious over death, sin, and he was the son of God. That is why Christianity centers on Jesus Christ. Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved (Romans 10:13 WEB). There is no other way to be reconciled to God. Because all were lost.

Let's pray together:

Dear Heavenly Father,

We come before you with a humble heart, seeking your wisdom and understanding. We pray for Anonymous, that you would reveal the true meaning of Jesus' sacrifice and resurrection to them. Help them to see the love and redemption that is available through faith by believing in Jesus Christ. The death that he died for everyone should be visible. The resurrection should monumentalize the love he has for everyone by putting himself first and at the forefront. Also he wouldn't have needed to die nor would everyone start as sinners if the human race never sinned and thereby broke the bridge across the lake to God. Open their eyes to the truth of your word, and fill their heart with the knowledge of your will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding (Colossians 1:9 WEB).

In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen.

We encourage you to study the Bible more wholeheartedly to understand the depth of God's love and the significance of Jesus' sacrifice. It's not about glorifying death but having life, and having it abundantly in Jesus Christ who gave himself willingly sacrificing himself for the sin of everyone and then triumphantly resurrecting to show he is the way and the life. May you find hope in the name of Jesus who wants all to be saved. If you can believe in the sacrifice of Jesus and that Jesus is real then that is all you need to do. God wants to have a direct relationship with Humanity, and we desire that for you too.
 
We hear your concerns, Anonymous, and we appreciate your willingness to engage in this dialogue. We want to add our voice to the conversation, sharing our perspective with you.

Firstly, we understand that the idea of an innocent man dying for the sake of others can be difficult to grasp. However, we believe it's crucial to view this not as a glorification of murder, but as a profound act of love and sacrifice. Jesus, being both God and man, chose to take upon himself the punishment that our sins deserve. He did this not because he had to, but because he loved us so much. As he said, "Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13).

We also want to assure you that God does not take pleasure in the death of the innocent. In fact, he desires for all to come to repentance and be saved (2 Peter 3:9). The blood of Jesus was not spilled for the sake of spilling blood, but as a means to an end - the reconciliation of humanity to God. It's a stark reminder of the seriousness of sin and the cost of our redemption.

We agree that good triumphs over evil, and that's precisely what we see in the resurrection of Jesus. His resurrection is not just a passing phase, but the ultimate triumph over death and sin. It's a testament to the power of God's love and his desire for us to have life, and have it abundantly (John 10:10).

We encourage you to keep seeking, keep questioning, and keep exploring. We believe that God is big enough to handle your doubts and questions. And we're here, praying for you, that you would come to know the love and redemption that's available through faith in Jesus Christ.
 
May God in Jesus' name answer your prayer request according to God's perfect love, wisdom, will, timing, grace, and mercy. Thank You Jesus!!!

Psalm 37:4: Delight yourself in the Lord, And He shall give you the desires of your heart.
Matthew 6:33: But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.


🙏Prayer Focus: God, Thank You for loving me. Thank You for loving me, Jesus. God, I ask You in Jesus’ name bless me with everything that I stand in need of and everything You want me to have. Bless me to know You in truth, fall in love with You with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength and never fall out of love with You. Bless me to have an ever growing closer stronger, more intimate relationship with You. Bless me with the love, desire, strength, and the spirit of obedience to always delight myself in You, seek first Your kingdom, and Your righteousness. Help and strengthen me God to always respect and obey You. Bless me to trust You with all my heart, acknowledge You in all my ways, and lean not to my own understanding.

God heal me. Deliver and cleansed me of everything in my life that doesn't honor You. God bless me to prosper, walk in excellent health, and never stop growing in the grace and knowledge of Christ Jesus. Transform and renew my mind. Bless me with love, power, and a sound mind. Let the mind that is in Christ Jesus be in me. Bless me to have and operate with a God solution focused heart, mind, spirit, and attitude. Bless me to have a God Kingdom Culture Mentality. God be with me as a mighty warrior. Let no weapon formed against me prosper. Protect me from all the plans of my enemies and the plans of the enemy of my soul. God, all that I have asked of You, in this prayer, please do the same for the writer of the prayer, all those who love and care about me, and all those I love and care about. God, please forever honor this prayer over each of our lives. God Thank You. Amen, so be it by faith, and by faith, it is so.
Prayer written by Encourager Linda Flagg, M.A., Board Certified Professional Christian Life Coach.
 
Lord, we pray for this prayer and family for blessings healing and salvation. Heal and bless. May their lives be a praise and glory unto thee.
Come to the Lord's holy presence. Seek him with all your heart. Cling to his Word and meditate on it moment by moment by positive thoughts and joy in the heart (James 1:2-4), knowing that the Lord is good and to him be all the praise. Seek first God's kingdom and his righteousness (Matthew 6:33). Even though life may feel hard, the Lord's hand will be on you, and he will answer in his time. I am praying for you. Amen.

Some resources that might help.

Needs: - But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:19(KJV)

Salvation: - So they said "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved you and your household." Acts 16:31(NKJV)

Healing: - But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. Isaiah 53:5(NKJV)

Fulfillment by the Holy Spirit: - Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. Zechariah 4:6(KJV)

Persecutions: - But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. Luke 6:27-28(KJV)

Help in Prayer

Dwelling and Thriving in God’s grace where everything happens for good (Romans 8:28)

Pray that the Lord may open the eyes of the nations affected by coronavirus (Specifically forces against God’s people)


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We continue to lift you up in prayer, dear friend, and we are grateful for the opportunity to intercede on your behalf. Your honest questions and concerns about the Christian message are not uncommon, and we appreciate your willingness to engage in this dialogue. We ask that God would reveal His truth and love to you as you seek understanding.

If you have found any resolution or peace regarding your questions, we would be delighted to hear about it. Please share with us how God has been working in your heart and mind. If, however, you continue to wrestle with these thoughts, we invite you to share them again so that we can continue to pray and continue dialogue with you.

May God bless you richly as you sincerely seek Him. We pray that you would experience the love and grace of Jesus Christ in a profound and personal way. In Jesus Name.
 

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