Mainly, sin is a product of the fallen nature,and a rebellious action by the sinner. It is not approved of by God, and is why Jesus came to be the substitute. Ok...but, in certain cases, God uses the sinner for a purpose.Like, at first glance, we look at Judas,and we would think he's the biggest traitor of all time.But ,it was all part of a plan.If Judas DIDN'T turn Jesus in, and Jesus didn't go to the cross, we'd all go to Hell!!And those Roman soldiers, and the Jews who clamored for the crucifixion..sure, they did it with sinful intent,BUT, again, God controls foreordained circumstances, so, even though the devil might have "stirred them up", it was part of "the plan",and again, if they didn't do that, Jesus would have "walked", but WE would've gone you know where!!Even with the Antichrist, look how many people get saved because their eyes are opened.So my point, although some sins are "random" and don't affect too much in the bigger picture,also by these examples it would bear out that some sinners are used by God for a purpose,and if it's part of Gods plan, in the bigger picture, though they're still doing it with sinful intent,good comes out of it. Eh?
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God "uses" certain sinners..meaning..
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Brother James
Beloved of All
I'm not going to argue with you on anything Steven but every time you post anything you should state by the way I'm Steven Bobb and I believe anyone who follows Jesus Instructions like count it all as joy, take no thought for your life, die to yourself is in my opinion a masochist
Steven Bobb
Beloved of All
And anyone who repeats something over and over again is a parrot.
Brother James
Beloved of All
See what I mean! I really don't care if you call me names Steven Bobb but every time you post something I'm going to remind others that if they try to follow Jesus' Instructions especially like count it all as joy, I'm going to remind others that you think they are masochists until you repent of it...
If you desire to call me a parrot for repeating Christ's Instructions so be it. You must also think that Jesus is a parrot because He repeated many things...
Steven Bobb
Beloved of All
While I'm considering what you said,,I remind you that God is also watching your actions, and I wonder if you're doing this actually to defend the honor of Gods people, or you took it personally and are doing this for your own personal revenge,.{"Return evil for evil to noone."}Because it's interesting that everyone read what I posted, but who is the one who keeps it going? It just so happens to be the one who I've had this state of hostilitiy with. So just wondering if you're doing it in the spirit of vengeance--God will know that too. if someone else posted that, would you react the same way?
All sinners are being used by the devil to torture and bare false testimony against those who love the Lord. At work, I see those who refuse to come to the Lord and continue to harass and make fun of Gods word. Just bow down before the Lord and pray for those who are atheists, agnostics and skeptics. May Jesus come to them and save them. Come and quench the thristy soul we pray. Amen
Brother James
Beloved of All
You really just don't get it Steven Bobb. I have only been trying to bless you this whole time you have been on here. We are to die to ourselves, turn from our wicked ways! If the joy of our Lord Jesus is for our strength how do we become more joyful if we don't count everything as joy? How do we become more strong, more powerful in Jesus my friend? I'm only trying to bless you to be right with Jesus, to actually follow Jesus, not follow the Devil.
Steven Bobb
Beloved of All
Your STYLE of saying things I find to be a little overbearing,pushy.I say this-- if you point out certain areas which the Sciptures show something.but ,but having preferences I don't think is a sin. Like , if something happens and I would have prefered it to go otherwise, and I feel that way, is having a preference a sin?And if I "said" I feel"joyful" at times when I don't, I would be lying. If I came on and gave a praise report because some neighbor kept me awake at 3 AM, {and I had to wake up early the next day}and I come on here and said I "loved the experience, God would know that I'm lying, which is also a sin. I can repent for my namecalling{and I wasn't trying to "teach" anyway} but For having preferences on experiences? And yes I read those verses you gave.
Brother James
Beloved of All
Nehemiah 8:10 Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our Lord: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of the LORD is your strength.
Matthew 5:11 - 13 / 11. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. 13. Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
There is many places Jesus instructs us to count it all as joy Steven. How are we the salt of the Earth if we don't count all as joy. Do you desire to be cast out and trodden under foot, in Hell basically? I'm only trying to rescue you Steven which is why I call you my friend.
I would be posting prayers... Lord Jesus help me, teach me to count all as joy, teach me to have strength in You in Jesus! Amen! Thank You Lord Jesus!
Steven Bobb
Beloved of All
Well, strengthen me and teach me how is one thing, and a legitimate prayer But if I say I'm happy about something when I'm not, I would be lying . Would you encourage me to lie?Like today, a few days ago I got an overcharge from the car dealer, for $2100.They said they would transfer it back to my account. meantime, I called the bank hoping to see if was there, and instead , it not only wasn't but the opposite--other checks had cleared and the account was LESS then before--the opposite of what I was hoping for--so if at that time I would have posted a praise report about I thought it was wonderful when it actually wasn't my preference, I would have been lying .
