You know.....as I look back on people I've know through my life, I see that there are those who we have no problem noticing are "sinners.", because they're into "obvious" sinful things, like fornication,adultery, maybe robbery, etc.But we also know that this type can and have become saved.{"For such were some of you."}And they get saved because eventually God shows them things, and they're at the point where they accept it!!But then, the other type of sinner is the self-righteous, Pharisee like sinner, who is smug in their own SELF righteousness, and has a sense of smug superiority over those they think are "not on their "righteous" level{In other words , they're judgemental} They also have a "ratings sheet" of who{in their viewpoint} are the "good " ones and the" bad ones."{They have a "works " salvation plan.}And they 'll play judge and jury and downgrade those not on their "high level."{according to them.}{But didn't the Bible say,"All our good works are as filthy rags before God".And didn't the Bible say,"We are saved by grace, not by works, so no flesh should boast"}What prompted me to post this, is, something reminded me of these different people,and I noticed the ones into sin, and then the ones who thought they were "better", and would downgrade those not in their "clique". And it came to me--the ones with their "regular' sins would usually likely get saved before the stubborn self-righteous ones!! Because the stubborn ones think they have no need for salvation, so wouldn't come before God. The other sinners might sooner humble themselves. {Like look at how few, if any , Pharisees got saved compared to "other types" of sinners.}A point?
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A "gross sinner" could get saved sooner than a self-righteous "religious" person
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natasha2
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Some of those self righteous people are here, saved (i hope so), and they have authority because they judge from above, and others listen to them and respect them. But whoever does not have the love of God is not of God, no matter how clean and righteous they are and "role model" to others. Yes, you are right, they think they can save themselves by their works, but the love of God and Holy spirit saves. "Coldblooded" obedience to regulations will not save them. We all well know how the father is: like the father of a prodigal son. Forever forgiving, loving and generous. I suppose they need healing in their hearts and the love of God manifested to them. Whoever has not encountered the love of God, cannot love others in that same way. And if the "sinner' has sinned more abundantly, those sins will be forgiven to them, the ones who are more forgiven, they would be able to love more.
Very good explanation Steven, the subject i am always interested in. Thanks!
Very good explanation Steven, the subject i am always interested in. Thanks!
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Martha Buthelezi
Servant of All
Our sermon talked about this topic today. Jesus looked for sinners to cleanse then and forgive their sins. My ego separates me from God. The ego needs to be dismantled.
Erdland
Servant
Do not judge anyone at all. Jesus does the judging. Just fast and pray before the Lord for those you think are self righteous, hypocrites, lovers of money and pleasure and those who love to watch porn all the time. Jesus will judge them. All we have to do is to fast and pray before the Lord wherever we are. Attend church faithfully, love others, help those in need and your life will be blessed.
natasha2
Beloved of All
Brother, Jesus has judged the self righteous who.because of selfrighteousness spread religion because they thought they can save themselves, and He rebuked them. Because they are threat to the pure kingdom teaching. Little yeast can spoil all the bread. The bread of life is Jesus and they are yeast that is dangerous. Just a little yeast can spoil all the bread. Yeast works against grace of God, that is saving people BY FAITH and not BY WORKS so that nooone could boast. Pride is the lroblem here. I am better then others. False teachings are just as dangerous as self righteous people, lead other people to hell. God bless you.
natasha2
Beloved of All
Read Matthew 23 to better understand what i am talking about. Sinners forgiven, self righteous scribes rebuked/condemned.
Martha Buthelezi
Servant of All
Amen
If you really love the Lord with all your heart, mind and soul then you should love the worst sinner of the world. Specially those who are proud and despise the Lord. Jesus forgave that woman found in fornication. People judge her and wanted to stone her. They brough ther to Jesus. What do you say about this sinner? Jesus, full of mercy and compassion said. Those of you who have no sin, then, throw the first stone. None of them did. So, let us all pray for all sinners to come to Jesus. Bring all lost souls you see around to church and make sure they get saved and be on their way to heaven. Jesus loves them and cares for them.
